Fifty Shades of Grey Discussion 6/28/2012

So how do I ever rwrite about Lisa’s choice of books? Fifty Shades of Grey by E L James. Who needed discussion questions. Trust me when I say not this group of fun loving and out spoken ladies and gent had plenty to say. It was loud and wild. Yes this was a book for the records. It was provocative, erotic, and trashy. Several of the group had read all 3 books and others are reading book two and/or three as I write. With each book you learn more about the main character Christian Grey.

Some thought it was just plain and simple porn… hmmm maybe I don’t know and not worth reading but how do you know if you don’t read it. Obviously ladies around the world must not think it’s so bad. Sales for Fifty Shades have superseded Harry Potter, Hunger Games and Twilight. Crazy huh!

Several brought up the fact that if you had some kind of ereader no one knew what you were reading. Unlike me for example… I’m sitting in the patient room waiting on the doctor to come in.. he comes in, sits down at the little computer, starts looking over my file then glances over at the book sitting in my lap. The Doctor “So is that the book that’s all over the news and ladies are reading like crazy?” Me.. “Oh! Uhh yes.” And I flip the book over and drop into my purse on the floor. LOL. Oh well. Wonder what he was thinking after that?

I found myself cringing, crying and laughing with this book. Okay so no I’m not into the sex toys and games that Christian Grey was into but I found the book somewhat entertaining on different levels. Who am I to judge? Each book builds off the other and they do have a story line and it gets better. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I’m not into pain of any kinds so there’s no way you’ll find me thinking about trying any whips, chains or clamps etc. No Way.

Susan and Suzanne said that Christian Grey didn’t appeal to them because they prefer their men to have brains. Hey Christian didn’t sound stupid to me so his good looks were a bonus the way I look at it. The man ran several businesses and was rich beyond my wildest dreams at the age of 27.

No names mentioned to protect the innocent but 2 members had an interesting evening this past week.  They were driving by this bar when One said  “Did you know that bar is suppose to be a swingers bar? Really? What Kind of people go there?” So I'm not saying that they drove by 4 times to check it out or anything before they decided to park and watch.

So it’s one of those things where you had to be at the meeting to get it but we were all laughing hysterically at the story. There was more detail . Oh one couple that they saw go in was probably in their 70’s and dressed very nicely. See I mentioned the story and no names. 

There was all kinds of stories flying but to avoid incriminating those who shared or offending anyone who wasn’t my lips are sealed and my keyboard frozen. What goes on at the Book Club stays in the Book Club but oh my Lordy this is one meeting I won’t soon forget.  At first I thought I’d drop subtle hints like “Don’t leave your doors unlocked or Magic Jeanies laying around” but you had to be there to understand the meanings.

Ahh Dawnie is back with us! There’s never a dull moment with her around. Glad to have you back. For those of you who have never met Dawn this little girl came to WTS at the age of 18 and the stories we could tell if she doesn’t. LOL. You know what else? I didn’t know anything could make that girl blush. But she did Thursday. I mean she blushed. What!

No Way you say

. Well it happened. Love you Dawnie.

Lisa Roper said that since she hasn't been to a meeting in forever she told me she felt it was only right that she pass. So atrick was at the meeting and has been at most of the other but he too passed. He said he didn’t have a book  ready to go to the next person. The next person who was at the meeting was Susan so without further ado….. She has chosen “Wicked Business” by Janet Evanovich. Tentative meeting date is Thursday August 9^th.

This so called photographer left her camera bag in her office under her desk. I can’t believe I did that even now. So I did snap a few so so pictures on my phone. Sorry for the quality of my pictures.

Thanks Diana for saving the day by having your camera with you! Thanks Lisa for choosing such a wild book .

Thanks Suzanne for the use of your home.

 And Thank you Barbara for your compliments on my post about The Shack . It meant alot.

 Now Go buy your books … Next to choose will be Patrick, Suzanne, Angie. Or Barbara. Each of you should be ready with a book just in case I have to move down the list like I did this time.

In case you’re wondering why I skipped a few of the folks it’s because they haven’t been to a meeting in a long time but as soon as their schedule allows them to they will come back to us. When they do I’ll put them as one of the next to choose. We want you to come back to us girls. We miss you.

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Does anyone know of a good Thai restaraunt? Just asking......

So until I next meeting.... Happy Reading.

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The Shack Book Discussion

If you weren’t at Lupe Tortilla’s for the discussion of Lauren’s book choice “The Shack” by William P. Young you were missed and you missed some good conversation and food.

Kathy was able to join us for the first time in a long time. It was great to have her back and she looked good. And I hope those folks were sick that evening are definitely feeling better by now.

The Shack provoked a lot of conversation. I had heard that you either liked this book or hated it. Keep in mind that this book was not meant to be Biblical it was only the story of one man’s experience. ;o)  Everyone present liked the book while they may not have agreed with the whole content. The consences of the group.. the book is about “relationships.”

You know me there are always books that make me dig for more info and this was one of them. The author felt that this book tells you more about him than you could ever read any where else. His life is partly revealed in both characters Willie and Mack and more. His whole life is about the Trinity and guess what “RELATIONSHIPS.” I read his blog , yes a blog to find out that he actually never intended to have the story published. He wrote it for his kids to understand his relationship with God. Mack is not a real person but Mac’s family members resemble William P's own family and friends. In his blog he reveals that the story is fiction but the emotional pain is real. He has a shack and said the conversations are real. William P. lost his 5 year old neice to an accident not a murder.
One of the reasons I think people have trouble with books like this is because they are controlled by their beliefs and have no room for options. If it’s different from what they are taught then it must be wrong.
A few points made in the book hit home with me

1.     Forgiving isn’t about forgetting; it’s about letting go of another person’s throat

2.     . Even though God can work incredible good out of unspeakable tragedies, it does not mean God caused it. Where there is suffering, you will find grace in many facets and colours.

3.     Jesus will travel any road to find his children. But only one road leads back to heaven

4.     We say: “Predators deserve judgment, their parents, too, for twisting them, and their parents, and on and on, until finally we go right back to Adam, and then, why not judge God? He started it all…isn’t God to blame for our losses? He could have not created, or he could have stopped the killer, but he didn’t.” If we can judge God so easily then, of course, we can judge the world. We must then (e.g.) choose two of our five children to go to heaven and three to go to hell, because that’s what we believe God does. Mack could not choose any one of his children because he loved them no matter what they did. So instead, he begged that he could go to hell for his children. This response is exactly what Jesus did. Mack judged well. He judged his children worthy of love, even if it cost him everything. This is how Jesus loves. ‘And now we know Papa’s heart.”

5.     Mack says: “I just can’t imagine any final outcome that would justify all this (pain, suffering etc).” Papa replies: “We’re not justifying it. We are redeeming it.”

6.     The different appearances of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit were used to help Mack break his religious conditioning.

7.     You don’t have to worship in group or 4 walls to believe

An excerpt from his blog:  So is the story true?  The pain, the loss, the grief, the process,

                          the conversations, the questions, the anger, the longing, the secrets, the lies,

                        the forgiveness…all real, all true.  The story in particular… fiction… but….  

Then there is God who emerges so very real and true, unexpected and yet not

unexpected, but surprising and…

So… is all this real?  Is all this true?  I suppose each of us has to decide for ourselves, don’t we?

Next to choose was Lisa Rhodes and her book choice was “Fifty Shades of Grey” by EL James. Oh boy now this book ought to be interesting to discuss. We’ll tentatively set the meeting date for Thursday June 21^st which if 5 weeks out. So get that book and get to reading..  What a book to come after The Shack!

Next to choose will be Lisa Roper then Naomi, Pam or Patrick, Sandy or Susan. 

Everyone get your book and get to reading and everyone start thinking about what book you want the group to read because you never know when I might ask you to suggest a book if no one else before you is ready.

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